Gerry Zeitlin The Invisible College and his Book, "The War in Heaven" From the www.bibliotecapleyades.net

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Cliché by Arthur C. Clarke "Profiles of The Future", 1961

When we see what we take to be magic, could we be looking at a sign of advanced technology?

A preposterous suggestion. It's logically valid, of course, but so hypothetical. Who sees magic anyway?

Noted author Paul Von Ward, writing in Gods, Genes, and Consciousness shows how man's early contact with what he calls Advanced Beings, gave rise to magical interpretations and magical religions, leading directly down the line to today's supernatural religions and belief in God. Directly.

People today who practice religion and believe in God - including members of the very SETI community just mentioned - have accepted for their personal and public truth the degraded remnants of the effects of early encounters with "Advanced Beings", however abhorrent they may find this assertion to be.

But "magic" itself never disappeared. It has remained important and an important influence on human society down the ages into the present. There are many many examples of the practice of magic within our society.

But it doesn't "work", right? Many practitioners would say that it does. Do you suppose they might have some reason for saying so? And if it does, could there still be an advanced technology lurking in the background?

And if there is, could there be technology lurking behind religion as well?

     Gerry Zeitlin: Nos ancêtres les Gina'abul

Welcome to 'War in Heaven'. This important book was self-published by Kyle Griffith in 1988 and has long been out of print; Griffith's publishing company no longer exists, and his whereabouts had been unknown for years.

We present here a detailed summary of the book.

Part One, the introduction to the book proper, is not included here, but portions of it will eventually be reproduced on this website or in the associated War in Heaven Forum. For example, an excerpt concerning the origins of materialistic science is available under the title The Copernican Compromise.

The remainder of War in Heaven (WiH) consists of a dialog between Griffith and a "disembodied spirit" who claimed to be a member of a group calling itself The Invisible College. The format consists of questions and answers. Griffith states that the answers were received by automatic writing and read back to the contacted entity for review and correction. The questions and answers that appear in the text are actually the result of several iterations of review and discussion.

The material thus generated is both convincing and compelling, and appears to be of vital importance to human society. That is a claim we see all the time; this time I submit that the claim is truly justified. Since there is at the moment no other way for readers to gain access to the ideas or information expressed in War in Heaven, I am undertaking to summarize the key points here.

The reader should be warned. This book is of direct concern to SETI. Yet it is about religion. It is about magic. And magic, at times, is about sex.

These matters are all about the past, present, and future situation of the human race.

 

Contents

• The Invisible College
• Theocratic Bands
• Religious Mind Control
• Electronic Mind Control
• The History of Theocracy
• The Invisible College
• Satan and Buddha
• The Age of Reason
• A Revolution in Consciousness
• The Aquarian Age
• Hitchhiking Spirits
• Elementals
• Gods
• The Fifth Stage of Theocracy
• The Technology War
• The Last Days
• Handbook for the Recently Deceased

Additional Information

• The Copernican Compromise

by Gerry Zeitlin

from EndEnchantment Website

by Kyle Griffith

1990

from RevolutionizingRealityYahooGroup Website

Spanish version

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This important book was self-published by Kyle Griffith in 1988 and has long been out of print; Griffith’s publishing company no longer exists, and his whereabouts had been unknown for years. 'War in Heaven' (WiH) consists of a dialog between Griffith and a "disembodied spirit" who claimed to be a member of a group calling itself 'The Invisible College.' The format consists of questions and answers. Griffith states that the answers were received by automatic writing and read back to the contacted entity for review and correction. The questions and answers that appear in the text are actually the result of several iterations of review and discussion. The material thus generated is both convincing and compelling, and appears to be of vital importance to human society. That is a claim we see all the time; this time I submit that the claim is truly justified. The reader should be warned. This book is of direct concern to SETI. Yet it is about religion. It is about magic. And magic, at times, is about sex. These matters are all about the past, present, and future situation of the human race.Gerry Zeitlin

War In Heaven 4: Invisible College, Astral Plane, Astral Politics, Reincarnation, Manipulation

 

Contents

Forward Reviews and Comments Part One: A Breakthrough in Spiritual Consciousness Chapter - The Search for Spiritual Reality Chapter - The Shaver Mystery Chapter - Conspiracies Chapter - The Sixties Chapter - Religions and Revolution Chapter - Passport to Paranoia Chapter - The Invisible War Chapter - The Breaking Point Chapter - The Breakthrough Part Two: Theocracy Chapter - The Theocrats Chapter - Theocratic Bands Chapter - Religious Mind Control Chapter - Soul, Mind, and Consciousness Chapter - Electronic Mind Control Chapter - The History of Theocracy Chapter - The Invisible College Chapter - Satan and Buddha Chapter - The Age of Reason Chapter - A Revolution in Consciousness Chapter - The Aquarian Age Part Three: The Second Breakthrough   Chapter - Hitch Hiking Spirits Chapter - Elementals Chapter - Gods Chapter - The Fifth Stage of Theocracy Chapter - The Technology War Chapter - The Last Days Part Four: The Spiritual Revolution Chapter - Toward a General Breakthrough Chapter - The Spiritual Revolutionary Movement Chapter - Spiritual Politics Today Chapter - The End and The Beginning Appendixes A Suggested Code of Conduct for Spiritual Revolutionaries A Symbol for the Spiritual Revolutionary Movement Summary Additional Information Alien Interview - Based On Personal Notes and Interview Transcriptions Provided by  Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson   Is Your God a Devil? Matrix Intro Notes for 'War in Heaven' Robert Boyle and The Invisible College The Nature of Spiritual Reality - Questions to Kyle Griffith on the Meaning of  "The War in Heaven" "War in Heaven" and the Exploitation through Religion War in Heaven - The Invisible College - Summary of Kyle Griffith's Book Related Reports Ponerology - The Science of Evil The Council of Nine Charles Wharry (Darkbird18): The information and research in this article are very detail  information on the true ancient human history. I always "syndicate"  very good information and research on our ancient human history  past because the past is where the answers are about the present. " The Bad" who controls all information about our ancient past knows  this and keeps this information away from us and makeup very big Lyes about our ancient  past to keep us from the truth. Information is power and those who control the information  from the past control and rule the present and future. Read this information and keep your  "Eyes" and mind open to this information to see the truth behind this great lie told about our  past.

Pope Reveals the Bible is Not the Whole Story and Anunnaki Geneticist Created Our Bodies, NOT Our Souls

 

Pope Reveals the Bible is Not the Whole Story

DELIGHTFUL KNOWLEDGE

 on June 28, 2016 at 4:35 pm

Those of us who have seriously looked in to the work of Zecharia Sitchin are well aware of the claim that the Book of Genesis is nothing more than a summarized, edited version of ancient Sumerian Legends. There is a much bigger story behind the creation of man than what the church has been telling us for centuries. In a 1986 address, with little fanfare, Pope John Paul II seems to be addressing this very issue.

“The reference to the ‘primacy’ of Christ helps us to understand that the truth about the existence and activity of the angels (good and bad) is not the central content of the word of God… The truth about the angels is in a certain sense ‘collateral,’ though inseparable from the central revelation… They are superior to all that is created in the visible world, including man.” Pope John Paul II

What exactly was the Pope getting at here? The address is speaking about ‘The creator of all things, seen and unseen.’ Could this be the same ‘Creator of All’ mentioned in Sumerian legend? The tales recount the creation of man with stunning parallels to Genesis, but with much more detailed information. Adam (Adamu) was genetically engineered by space aliens to be a slave race. The Anunnaki came to earth hundreds of thousands of years ago to mine for gold, but their workers, as workers do on occassion, rebelled. As a solution to the problem, a genetic scientist called Enki was authorized to splice their alien DNA with the DNA of an ape-like creature they found living in Africa (Homo Erectus).

               Sumerians Ancient Knowledge Given to Marduk | Abraham of UR Left Everything Behind

Enki was furious when he found that his brother Enlil was working his creation, his masterpiece, mankind, to death so he imparted the forbidden knowledge of the gods to us. For this he was demonized by his brother, and the humans that used this knowledge were cast out into the wilderness. And so the wars began… wars which continue to this day. Throughout history, Enki himself has found descendents of the cast aways living in the wild and has descended upon them to teach them language, agriculture, mathematics, architecture, etc. From the Mayans to the Chinese, countless cultures attribute the beginning of their civilization to a mysterious ‘God’ that came down from the sky and taught them everything they know… then left.

Initially, Enlil despised our creation. This is why he ordered that no human be warned about the impending disaster: cosmic events were about to cause a world-wide flood. Enki defied these orders by instructing his hybrid son, Ziasudra (Noah), to build the Ark. After witnessing the destruction and calamity from his spaceship, Enlil had a change of heart. He then decided that as their creation, he couldn’t allow us to destroy ourselves. We were to be cared for as offspring, not herded as cattle. Until the long awaited day would come when we could stand on our own. Considering current events, I would say the decendants of these ‘gods’ in power today are ready for us to be treated as adults. To be given what we ask for whether we want it or not.

As fascinating and revealing as this story is, what stands out to me the most is that these ‘Gods’ had a God of their own. The ‘Creator of All’ as revealed through a mysterious spiritual being they called Galzu. They did not understand this mystical force that created and sustains the universe either. They also turned to mystics and followed astrology to determine where they stood in relation to both fate and destiny. They pondered the very same questions we ponder today.

Many of the wars waged in ancient times were between the houses of Marduk (Enki’s son) and Inanna (Granddaughter of Enlil). Both vied for rule of the entire planet, but when Marduk’s city, Babylon, was spared from the fallout from the nuclear weapons used on his forces in Canaan, while all of the rest of Sumer was decimated, the Anunnaki decided it was the will of the Creator of All for Marduk to inherit the Earth. Presuming this decision is still in effect, this would be the ‘powers that have been’ whom have operated through the principles of deception, divide and rule, chaos, brain washing, fear-mongering, and even religion.

Although these demons have done all they can to prevent us from waking up from their spell, our cries for help have not gone unanswered. 2000 years ago, the Creator of All inpired a descendent of both Enlil and Enki named Joshua (aka Jesus) to tell us the truth and empower us to overthrow our insidious dark overlords. These teachings were edited and distorted to suit the needs of said demons; the distortions becoming the very foundation of what we consider Christianity today.

While a basic understanding of what Jesus wanted to tell us can be found in the sermon on the mount, there are far more insights and revelations which cannot be found in cannonized text. In fact, compelling evidence is outlined in the book, The Gods Of Eden that the Book of Revelation is a lie. That John was abducted and drugged by non-human entities; shown an apocalyptic outcome of the events that would transpire when the Anunnaki return. This is nothing more than propaganda. Their intent is to keep us confused and ignorant so that if they make it appear the Anunnaki are returning, we will submit to their will in order to protect our continued existence.

“We know that man enjoys a unique position within the sphere of creation. By his body he belongs to the visible world, while by his spiritual soul which vivifies the body, he is as it were on the boundary between the visible and invisible creation.” The Pope’s words here reveal an important distinction. While our bodies may have been genetically engineered by spacemen and are the property of their decendants, our immortal souls which animate them are the product of the Creator of All. This statement is in line with what Jesus said in the so-called ‘gnostic gospels‘ which the church banned and tried to destroy in 325 AD. When determining ownership of our souls, our founding fathers could not have said it better:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

The Declaration of Independence

This statement to the royals of England and the Fallen that prop them up is the statement any true follower of the Creator of All will repeat to any being who wishes to rule over them. Any being which operates on deception or coercement is not in harmony with the Creator and will be responsible for their actions when their destiny and their fate converge. Your immortal soul is the source of your power. No one, from space aliens to clergy to kings to presidents, can take that power away from you. It is yours to surrender and it is yours to reclaim. Our Creator instilled within you the power to create yourself. Your Self. Your life, your body, your possesions, your situations… all of these are at your command. Armed with the understanding the the Creator values life above all else, Jesus gave us wonderful instructions as to how we command these things and what we should do with this power to better ourselves and each other. What we’ve been told of his message is incomplete. Parts of what he said have even been demonized by the church which proclaims to his. The parts that were left out are what YOU came here to proclaim to your world.

Please don’t take my word for it. Look into these matters yourself, and ask your inner being what the truth is to you. Forget the dogma and the programming of the Fallen and use your own discernment. That’s what it is there for.

Anunnaki Geneticist Created Our Bodies, NOT Our Souls

DELIGHTFUL KNOWLEDGE

 on June 22, 2016 at 5:22 am by Khali Carol, HumansAreFree.com

Approximately one half of the human beings on Earth (about 3.5 billion people) are organic portals, soulless human beings who keep real human beings in line with the status quo, on agenda with the matrix control system.

Organic portals form the backbone of the Matrix’s social control infrastructure. They are what keeps society running in a state of preoccupation with the mundane. From cradle to grave, souled humans are pressured to stay with the status quo and not ask dangerous questions.

Empty people. Puppet people. Cardboard cutouts. Drones. Organic Portals. Background characters. Why do these terms even exist?

Because out of necessity they had to be invented by those who independently noticed the same puzzling phenomenon, one for which there is no official name: some people seem to be missing something very important inside.

While they are not necessarily any less intelligent, successful, or physically healthy as anyone else, they nevertheless show no indication of having any higher components to their consciousness. Over the years some people came to this same conclusion.

They noticed that some people were strangely one dimensional and hollow inside. This observation is not hard to miss, but it is easy to rationalize away, especially with modern society being so heavily brainwashed with the politically correct but unrealistic concept that everyone is completely equal in every way, which ignores functional differences due to environmental, genetic, and most importantly, metaphysical factors.

                          Anunnaki Geneticists Created Our Bodies, NOT Our Souls

A considerable percentage of the people we meet on the street are people who are empty inside, that is, they are actually already dead. It is fortunate for us that we do not see and do not know it. If we knew what a number of people are actually dead and what a number of these dead people govern our lives, we should go mad with horror.

These are interesting times. On one hand there are changes happening on a global scale that can’t really be ignored much longer. On the other hand the majority of the population seem to live their lives as if everything is just as it always is and always will be, locked in a tunnel vision of personal and material interest.

While souled humans have a divine spark of consciousness that gives them the ability of individual self-awareness, Organic Portals lack this divine spark and are only dimly conscious in comparison. They belong to an animal like group soul that exists, evolves, and incarnates collectively rather than individually.

While each souled human has a relatively unique energy shaped by that person’s awareness, experience, and essence, the energy that animates one Organic Portal is the same animating any other. The human species on Earth is not a family, but rather is an aggregation (heterogeneous group) of beings with many different soul origins, that is, souls that came from many different planets.

ROSWELL 1947 CONSPIRACY – UFO INCIDENT CONSPIRACIES.NETMAY 5, 2017 and Exclusive Interview with.. Sergeant Clifford Stone. Twenty Two Years of Covert Service

 

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A Flying Saucer crashed in Roswell in 1947

William Brazel, The Rancher

In 1947 an object crashed to the ground near a ranch in New Mexico. The object was officially stated to be a United States Air Force Balloon by the United States Military. This was generally accepted until the 1970s when a variety of Extra Terrestrial related theories began surfacing. The Rancher who saw the crash, William Brazel, is reported as saying that indestructible metal no wider than tinfoil was found with strange markings etched upon its surface. The writings/etchings were in different colors with different geometric patterns. Brazel came under severe pressure from government officials. A column written by the current local newspaper at the time ran with the headline “Harassed Rancher Sorry he ever told about it”. It was not only Brazel who noticed the disk. A number of people have claimed to have seen debris from the flying object strewn over a wider area.

An issue with old conspiracy theories such as this is there is little in the way of verifiable information. There is also a shortage of data itself, given that the internet was not available at the time. The Roswell Incident of 1947 is largely accredited with being the first publicized encounter between the American people and UFOs.

Project Mogul

As the theory goes, Project Mogul was a military espionage project which used high altitude balloons in order to listen for sound waves from Soviet testing on Atomic bombs. Brazel had previously found such wreckage on his ranch, which is why he was so sure that the Roswell disk was not a Weather Balloon. Brazel stated that what he saw was definitely not a weather Balloon.

“I am sure that what I saw was not any weather observation balloon.”

Roswell 1947 Conspiracy Theories

The obvious theory that emerged from the Roswell incident was that the flying saucer was an Alien spaceship. There are many branches which spring from this theory. One theory is that the flying saucer was an Atomic Bomb. This theory was proposed by well known UFO theorist Jun Keith. The underlying rationale for the cover-up was that the government did not want the Soviets to know that they no longer had a supply of atomic weapons, and also that the accidental dropping of an atomic bomb would have led to a negative public reaction. It has also been proposed that the UFO was a plane manned by Chimps. There is no evidence of chimps in relation to the Roswell incident. Another theory surrounding the incident was that the disk/balloon was, in fact, a time machine. Philip J. Corso and William J. Birnes wrote a book titled the day after Roswell which documented that Corso helped the US government to sell the advanced technological machinery to Corporations. It is claimed in the book that these technologies later led to fiber optics and microprocessors. Corso believed that the “aliens” on board the spacecraft were humans from the future who were genetically engineered to withstand spaceflight and that the Earth was at war with the Extra Terrestrials until Regan defeated them in the 1980’s.

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Ufologist Nick Redfern proposed that the Roswell incident was a result of a crash between an experimental test flown aircraft. The first contained deformed Japanese prisoners of war which had been suffering from progeria and radiation poisoning. The second plane was struck by lightning and was an aircraft affixed to a Balloon, based on a Japanese design. The Japanese prisoners of war were allegedly taken from area 731, an area where the Japanese performed biological experiments on subjects. What US forces were doing with these topics is never explained by Redfern.

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In 1995 a businessman (Ray Santilli) from London released footage of an Alien autopsy performed in Roswell in 1947. This was quickly ridiculed and pulled apart, and the producer of the film later admitted that it was a fake, but insisted that real footage was out there. Glenn Dennis claimed to have walked into an examination room in 1989, where he saw three doctors huddled over a number of small, bald, childlike Aliens. One of more far out theories that emanated from the Roswell incident came from Redfern. According to Redfern, the wreckage was created by satanic demons in order to trick humanity into thinking that Extra Terrestrials had landed when in fact it was the arrival of the demons. Redfern also believes that all UFO abductions are cover ups for demons who are wreaking havoc on our souls. He also claimed that the aliens in the Santilli footage were suffering from Progeria, the same video that Santilli later stated was fake a year later.

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There are numerous individuals who claim to have seen alien bodies being tested or transported by the Military. These include Glenn Dennis, Jim Ragsdale, Miriam Bush, Gerald Anderson and Barney Barnett. Alien bodies are typically described as being small with no hair and large heads.

It is well documented in relation to UFO sightings that:

• The sightings increase significantly in the years of blockbuster Sci-Fi releases such as Mars Attacks, Star Wars and Independence Day
• The majority of sightings are reported on nights when people are drunk

While the vast majority of conspiracy claims are false, one piece of information arousing suspicion is that the initial press release from the Roswell Army Air Field indicated that the wreckage of a crashed disk had been recovered. A second Press Release issued the next day by the military stated that the crashed disk was, in fact, a weather Balloon which was mistakenly identified as a disk.

Conclusion

Did a flying Saucer Crash in Roswell in 1947? Possibly. All the theories which emerged from the Roswell incident are far flung with little evidence. As with 99% of these arguments, there are unexplained actions on behalf of the authorities, and there is quite probably more to the official story than meets the eye. However, there is no evidence to back up any of the emerging theories, from flying chimpanzees to time machines.

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by Dr Michael E. Salla

July 20, 2005

Exopolitics Journal 1:1 (October 2005)

from ExopoliticsJournal Website

 

Specialist Sergeant Clifford Stone (ret.) spent twenty two years serving in the U.S. Army (1969-1990) where he claims he was covertly assigned to elite UFO crash retrieval teams known as projects Moon Dust and Blue Fly.

 

Sergeant Stone testifies that he was recruited for this covert service upon his enlistment into the U.S. Army and secretly served for 22 years without his immediate commanders, military colleagues and family knowing about this.

 

What follows is the transcript of an exclusive interview conducted with Sgt Stone on July 20, 2005 where he describes how his specialized training was done in a way that wasn’t recorded in his military record; how he would be secretly summoned to his classified assignments without his regular army commander knowing; and the actual duties he performed when secret teams were tasked with the retrieval of extraterrestrial vehicles and recovery of extraterrestrial biological entities, both dead and alive.

Sgt Stone’s testimony is both startling and revealing in terms of the information it provides in how ordinary military servicemen are forced to served in elite service units concerning UFOs without being fully briefed, being deprived of the normal career recognition and benefits that occur for regular service in the U.S. military; and intimidated into maintaining secrecy.

 

All this is done without regular military commanders being aware of this thereby suggesting a shadowy military force existing within the United States military and the military of other countries that is exclusively responsible for UFO related issues. What follows is the first in a two part exclusive interview on Clifford Stone’s experiences on these covert UFO crash retrieval teams.

*I wish to thank Paola Harris who kindly contacted Sgt Stone to arrange this interview with him.

Abbreviations:

                                                     Roswell UFO incident

M.S. (Dr Michael Salla)
C.S. (Sgt Clifford Stone)

 

 

Part 1.

Covert Service on Project Moon Dust and UFO Crash Retrievals

M.S. Can you briefly outline how you were recruited for UFO crash retrievals and the principal military departments involved?

C.S. Well, I joined the Army, and outside of that I can’t say any other organization. It was just that you were brought into it. There was another organization that had nothing to do with the army, I know that because when I put in my retirement, my retirement was approved until this other organization found out [Ed. the ‘organization’ is the ‘control group’ for UFO related affairs]. Then I was attached to Fort Bliss pending approval of my retirement, and I can prove that my retirement was already approved. I have documentation on that, but the less you knew the more comfortable they felt.

 

Also, what a lot of people overlook is if we use the word ‘recruited’ into this field, was they need certain talents certain people have. What happens is that they have control of it. You have no control whatsoever. I don’t know if that makes any sense or not but they really do. And I am sure it started when I was a child. Initially when I tried to enlist in the army I was … rejected from military service, that was in December, 1967. And I was permanently rejected from military service. I was classified as 4F, and I would assume that the Draft Board has a record of that.



M.S. Can you confirm whether you did any training as ‘typist’ which is on your military record and how this related to the actual training you did for the specialized activities you performed? …

C.S. Which needs clarification because no one has ever gotten that straight. OK, I went into the military and when I enlisted, I enlisted for MOS, Military Occupational Specialty 71B, which is clerk typist. I was then and am to this very day a lousy clerk typist. I can’t type worth heck, but the situation is I tried for other MOS’s but they said “don’t rock the boat because you were . . . rejected from military service so let’s just take it easy, admin., not a problem.” Well, I went into that, going through Basic [Training], had some situations with UFO’s while I was in Basic that made it clear that somebody already knew that prior to getting into the service I had an interest in UFO’s.

 

It didn’t all start to click together until I got to AIT [Advanced Individual Training]. At AIT I went ahead and I was supposed to be trained as a clerk typist, but when you first get to AIT there are a couple of days you don’t go into training. Normally they started on a Monday and I got there one day during the week, other than Monday, so my training didn’t start until the following Monday, so they put me on ‘Detail’. And initially I was handing out medical records at the hospital there, when people came in. That went for two or three days.

When I was supposed to start training they had me up on a cleaning detail and sent me to the post headquarters which also housed the G2 office, which was military intelligence. There was a person there who was on special duty to Ozarks in South Carolina and he went ahead and was very interested in what I knew about UFO’s, up to and including the point where he was showing me things that were highly classified. I knew what Top Secret meant. I didn’t know what the letters meant after Top Secret at that time. Now I do know what they stand for . . . and I was a little concerned because I didn’t have a clearance at that time. After I got through Basic and got through AIT which he told me he would keep in touch when he left.

I went to my first permanent duty station after leave, and that was 36 Civil Affairs Company, part of the 96 Civil Affairs Group at Fort Lee, Virginia. I announced to them immediately that I did not know anything about typing, so the First Sergeant went ahead and said: “not only do you not know anything about typing you are color blind too.” And I said, ‘Pardon me’, so he said: “I’ll be right back.” And he goes into the company commander and tells the company commander something and the company commander comes out.

 

The company commander asks me what branch of service did I enlist into, and I said “Sir, I enlisted into the United States Army, it should be obvious on here”. He said: “do you know the difference between blue and green”, and I found the question kind of ridiculous, but I said “yes sir, I do”, and he said, “Ok”.

 

So they told me at that time, OK you say you can’t type, would you mind being the unit NBC [Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical] communications non-commissioned officer? And I said “sure, what does that encompass?” Well, we have to send you to school, so it wasn’t no more than a month of so later that I ended up going to school at Fort MacCallum, Alabama.

It was a three week course in the unit NBC, non-commissioned officer. Upon completion of that I came back to my unit and when I came back to my unit it was just taking care of the protective masks, the protective NBC protective equipment. I have the communications equipment which also consisted of several quick 25’s, which are field radios, little more than a hundred 312’s which were filled telephones and switchboard that we had, which was an SP22 switchboard.

 

A month after that I was assigned to be on the quick reaction group in the event there was an NBC incident that was to occur, then we would move out. Now under that guise I was used on at least three occasions while I was there dealing with UFOs.



M.S. You say that you participated in a training program for UFO crash retrieval teams under the rubric of Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Weapons Crisis Response Team. Is this training generic for all types of NBC crises including UFO crash retrievals, or was your training specifically for UFO crash retrievals and associated NBC problems?

C.S. It was generic for all NBC situations. When it came to UFO’s the general stance was they didn’t exist so they didn’t go out of there way to make believers out of people who were involved in that. You were hand picked by somebody, and that somebody wasn’t army officials. That somebody’s personal opinion [was] in the Alphabet Soup of the intelligence community of the United States.

 

I can’s say CIA, DIA or who. They hand picked you. And when you went there and there was a UFO incident, and you knew it was a UFO incident, the protocol went basically the same. And you were always debriefed being told it was a Soviet space craft, it was a Stealth aircraft, it was one of our aircraft. If you saw the craft you knew better.
 

M.S. Were NBC units used for normal duties in addition to specialized crash retrieval duties?

C.S. Oh absolutely. Like rule number one, don’t use an NBC unit when it comes to UFO’s. Don’t use an NBC unit on a quick reaction call on a UFO more than one time. Because what happens is that the people … normally have clearances between confidential and secret, mostly secret. But if you’re involved in a recovery of even debris of a UFO, then what happens is now its top secret/SCI, meaning that Top Secret Sensitive Compartmented Information, which requires more than a Top Secret clearance to view the material.

 

And that would be on a one time basis; however, they would have people in there that they hand picked that would be involved throughout their career dealing with UFO’s. And they would also go ahead and make the determination on assignment where those people go to try and have them in pre-position in locations where they anticipated there would be some kind of UFO related activity.



M.S. Did you speak to others participating in the NBC Crisis training and were they also involved in UFO crash retrieval duties?

C.S. Oh absolutely. The one thing that people have a problem with and is hard for them to understand is that the best protection is to have situations where you have real life, every day events that can occur and have contingency plans for life for them. Now if a UFO crashes, those thing’s [UFOs] contingency plan works very good for the recovery of items. Of course where they go is entirely different and the protocol is a little different, not much but a little different. For example, not everything is classified if you have an NBC accident, a nuclear, biological, chemical accident.